CLICK ON THE IMAGE TO ENLARGEThe Mayor's stance on this issue is both interesting and reassuring. He has actually done some evidence gathering that turns out to be quite compelling.
In contrast Ald. Dean seems to be presenting circumstantial evidence and he, as an ex-policeman, should (might?) have looked a little harder for evidence with more substance and credibility before he sparked this debate.
We can only draw our own conclusions about all of this and other issues in respect to the quality of Ald. Dean's evidence when it is presented.
Importantly, keep on looking for the credibility gaps, they may well present themselves.
In contrast Ald. Dean seems to be presenting circumstantial evidence and he, as an ex-policeman, should (might?) have looked a little harder for evidence with more substance and credibility before he sparked this debate.
We can only draw our own conclusions about all of this and other issues in respect to the quality of Ald. Dean's evidence when it is presented.
Importantly, keep on looking for the credibility gaps, they may well present themselves.
3 comments:
Hysteria – state of emotional instability caused by trauma – Ald. Soward? Yes this is an emotional issue, it is to do with Launcestonians’ cultural heritage and identity. Having that interfered with would certainly be traumatic and the city’s aldermen have put it in their hands to interfere with, tamper with, a cultural icon.
Why have these hoteliers complained? Is there more than one? It seems that in one instance at least that one hotelier has repurposed a building and inadequately it seems.
It may be that the council was delinquent in granting approvalfor that without adequate sound proofing, adequate car parking and perhaps a range of other issues.
When the research on this question is done let it NOT be done on the run and please Ald Soward make sure it is EVIDENCE BASED and INDEPENENT!
So far there has been quite a bit of hearsay evidence being bandied about and taken as credible. Can it be tested? Has it been tested? If not. of what value is it?
The petition that Ald. Dean had at hand, what credibility did it have? Would it stand the EVIDENCE TEST?
Ald. Dean is an ex-policeman, so he should know about EVIDENCE and the value of hearsay evidence,etc. But it seems he predisposed to accepting hearsay now.
If not let us seen some credible evidence! I suspect that this research would be time consuming, thus expensive. On the evidence to hand is there SUFFICIENT evidence to expend scarce resources,ratepayers money, on such a folly based largely on hearsay.
This whole thing is a joke and making the city the laughing stock of serious thinking people.
Hi Harold.The people who have contacted me via email, phone or informal verbal discussion have been hotel people, have been visitors and or guests at the hotel or people staying centrally in the city from out of town.No petition was submitted at the meeting but Alderman Dean made mention to some comments on it. It was not an official petition hence it was not lodged.I become frustrated when people critise Aldermen for not bring community concerns to the table yet when an Alderman brings concerns forward [ that some dont agree with] then we are criticised for bringing them forward for research and consideration. My remarks at the debate on the public record made it clear that I wasnt debating the chimes , whether they were good or bad but simply supporting a report into the matter based on the numerous conversations the diverse groups had with me[ as outlined above] I alos dont accept that a report is mega expensive; I would imagine that previous research into the issue would be used and also I already know that other councils in places like Ulverstone have looked at the issue so there is data and research available on the matter. Furtherto this there is the whole " mechanical " side of how the clock works to be considered and Ald Van zetten made mention of his research into that so Im sure it wont be some massively expensive report.
What sort of half-baked investigation is this going to be - ephemeral comments by visitors, complaints from one hotelier, and information relevant to the Ulverstone clock!
I fully concur that this matter, if it is to be tested at all, has to be tested on the basis of hard evidence relevant to Launceston's town clock and through an investigation that is truly independent, not on the basis of heresay and data from research relevant to other cities.
The management of one of Launceston's most important icons is at stake. From what I have read, I have little confidence that our Council is capable of dealing with this matter in a dispassionate and rigorous way.
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